Why is the Bush Circus increasing troops even though top military brass disagrees


lil mama , Thursday, 5th of August 2010 09:21:57 PM

Gen. John P. Abizaid, until recently the senior commander in the Middle 
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East, insists that the answer to our problems there is not military. ''You 
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geo-strategically,'' he said.

Also Gen. John Abizaid told 
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Congress, ''l met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core 
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commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And l said, in your 
professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, 
does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq? And 
they all said no.'' Abizaid explained, ''[T]he reason is because we want 
the Iraqis to do more. It is easy for the Iraqis to rely upon to us do 
this work. l believe that more American forces prevent the Iraqis from 
doing more, from taking more responsibility for their own future.''/>
Also, Colin Powell and Gen. Casey do not support escalation. What 
is the Bush Circus' logic?/>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/15/abizaid-mccain-iraq/
Excuse me, 
Colin Powell DOESN't support a troop surge in Iraq.
/>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/17/powell-surge/
 
 
 
 
 

short fry :D , Friday, 6th of August 2010 02:00:20 AM

logic?! .. oh god.. nevermind .. not worth my time..  
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''''I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core  
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commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together.''  
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Uhm sir, have you been drinking? or is English ur second language? ..  
 
''And I said, in ur professional opinion, if we were to bring in more  
American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve  
success in Iraq?''  
 
Wait, so you told them a question? I thought you had to ask a question for  
it to be a question.  
 
''if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add  
considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq?''  
 
WHATT?! when did this tool cross the border?!  
 
''I met with every divisional commander,''  
 
Ok.. who attended?  
 
''General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey,''  
 
Wait. what?  
What happened to the hundred other Generals scattered around Iraq? . uh,  
you conveniently forgot one of the top generals in Iraq too, General  
Patreaus. wierd huh..  
 
''And I said, in ur professional opinion, if we were to bring in more  
American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve  
success in Iraq? And they all said no.''  
 
wow. really.. great story. so you were like. Ok, if we increase the amount  
of troops.. will does it considerably success Iraq? . & when the commanders  
finished laufing at ur stupidity. they responded . ''no.''  
 
WELL! Good thing you had a very intellectual meeting with those two  
generals. I mean, its a sure good thing that they backed up their response  
by citing credible statistics & factual reasons concluding why they believe  
its not a good idea !!  
 
I mean, its a sure good thing that you discussed & deliberated on many  
different issues concerning Iraq & its surrounding country's.. a nice in  
depth analysis.  
 
Congradulations General John Abizaid on holding a very important &  
intellectual meeting..  
 
''Abizaid explained.. I believe that more American forces prevent the  
Iraqis from doing more, from taking more responsibility for their own  
future.''  
 
I mean.. I believe the Iraqi troops are lazy.. They see American troops  
helping them & they are just like NOPE, DONT CARE!  
 
I mean.. you can see it in their eyes!! YOU CAN SEE IT IN THEIR BROWN  
EYES, WITH 1/2'' EYELASHES AND BEAUTIFULLY TRIMMED EYEBROWS. AND SOft,  
sexy little *clears throat* uhm.. MILITARY . TACTICS. stuff. YOU CAN SEE  
IT IN THEIR EYES, THEY ARE LIKE.. MAN I AINT WASTING MY AMMO ON THAT  
SUICIDE BOMBER, IMA LET THE AMERICAN'S GET HIM. I NEED TO GO HUNTING  
TONITE FOR RABBITS!! ..YAR!  
 
I mean. & this is a very good point that you are going to agree with when  
i said you the question considerably.  
 
The Iraqi troops take the American troops for granted! Look, i dont want  
to hear about how the Iraqi troops are greatly outnumbered by the many  
different opposing terrorist + religious organizations, WHO CARES!. JUST  
BECAUSE YOU'RE GREATLY OUTNUMBERED BY THE ENEMY DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD  
LOSE TO THEM! WHAT A LAME EXCUSE!!  
 
I DONT CARE IF SOMEONE BLOWS OFF BOTH YOUR ARMS + LEGS DURING AN ATTACK!  
THE IRAQI POLICE SHOULD NOT JUST GIVE UP BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ARMS OR  
LEGS. CONTINUE TO FIGHT! IF THEY REALLY CARED THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO FIGHT  
BACK BY BITING THE ENEMY! THATS WHAT I WOULD DO! SURE, JUST GO RELYING ON  
AN AMERICAN TROOP TO SAVE YOU.. WHY? JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE DECAPITATED?!  
THE AMERICAN SUPPORT IN IRAQ IS CLEARLY ALLOWING IRAQI POLICE + TROOPS  
SLACK OFF!  
 
OVER 9,000 IRAQI TROOPS + POLICE OFFICERS DEAD IN IRAQ SINCE THE  
COMPLETION OF OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM?!  
 
PATHETIC! I DONT CARE IF YOUR DEAD, YOU CONTINUE TO PULL THAT TRIGGER AND  
FIGHT BACK!  
 
CLEARLY THESE IRAQI TROOPS TAKE AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR GRANTED!!!!  
 
LOL.. what a tool !!  
 
I mean, sure.. just saying ''no'' to drugs may be a good solution..  
but i dont think you can just say ''no'' while debating an important issue  
during war.  
 
The Democrats response to the war is starting to sound like Andy Dick is  
old sarcastic commercial where all he says is ''NO!!'' to his customers  
wanting benefits from insurance or w/e.  
 
 
 
 
 

Perfect Girl , Saturday, 7th of August 2010 05:07:22 AM

The Conservatives have for decades believed that we lost  
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Vietnam because the liberals protested & America lost faith in the war. In  
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had already lost the war.  
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We were fighting in Vietnam directly or indirectly for twenty years  
(1954-1974) trying to train a Vietnamese police force & army while taking  
sides in a civil war.  
 
Conservatives are trying to prove their contention in Iraq, that if they  
can win in Iraq they will prove they were right in Vietnam too.  
 
But you couldn't fit a water buffalo into a thimble & you can not lead a  
camel through the eye of a needle.  
 
We propped Communism up during the cold war by spending our troops in  
Vietnam & we are propping terrorism up now by wasting our troops in Iraq.  
 
 
 
 
 

Buckelberry , Sunday, 8th of August 2010 03:23:07 PM

There is no logic. He has been disregarding sound advice from  
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the beginning of this war - before it was even a ''war''. Bush is just  
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Daddy is little brat that SOMEHOW managed to get elected not once but  
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TWICE by riding the coat tails of his father. Now that little brat has  
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declared war & he won't pull out until he has his way. He will not admit  
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that he was wrong from the beginning & now unfortunately there is a  
situation that cannot be just abandoned. I DO NOT think we need a 'surge'  
of troops. This is just a last ditch effort to try to achieve something  
more from the mess that he has created. Thank GOD that the democrats are  
back in control of the country is purse strings because they won't be  
funding his tantrums freely. He will be forced in that way to consider  
alternative strategies that will hopefully bring our brave men & women  
home ASAP - without just abandoning what little progress was made over  
seas.  
 
 
 
 
 

TAKUUN , Monday, 9th of August 2010 05:49:29 AM

He is the decider and he has decided that he has more military  
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know how than the Generals.  
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Cheeky monkey , Tuesday, 10th of August 2010 12:33:39 AM

There isn't any Bush logic!! He will make a statement on one  
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day and call himself a liar the next. For example, now he proclaims Tony  
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Blair is pulling out troops is a sign we are winning. To logical (and  
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informed) people it is a trying to win an election strategy (that will not  
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work).  
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skittales , Wednesday, 11th of August 2010 12:08:39 AM

there is no such a thing as a ''bush circus''.  
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Foog / foogy , Thursday, 12th of August 2010 09:48:43 AM

The only ''top military brass'' that makes any difference are  
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the ones in charge now and THEY are the ones that want to increase the  
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amount of troops. Powell and Casey should calm down and let the ones in  
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charge do their job.  
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Mookie , Friday, 13th of August 2010 11:05:36 AM

Bush knows he screwed the war up to a fairtheewell. He is  
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hoping he can end the war before he leaves govt and call it a big win:(  
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Additionally he has too many friends who make a fortune on the war and he  
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needs them when he is done. He and his drunken Veep should do us a favor  
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and resign.  
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Snuggles , Saturday, 14th of August 2010 11:07:48 PM

Because he is the decider  
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StuffieToy , Sunday, 15th of August 2010 04:35:38 PM

They don't disagree- since they are canned.  
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Cookiecutter , Monday, 16th of August 2010 02:57:42 PM

You make the mistake of assuming Bush cares about the situation  
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in Iraq. The troop surge is to create the need for more Congressional  
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funding, thereby the opportunity of more war profiteering thievery by  
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Haliburton and the rest of Bush is cronies. Sorry for the cruel truth,  
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but it is all about the $$$  
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panther , Tuesday, 17th of August 2010 02:16:02 AM

Because Bush is buddies don't make more money if there is no  
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more war!! Cheney is Halliburton couldn't take all of our tax dollars  
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anymore!! These neocons have a ''starve the beast'' theory. If the money  
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is used for enriching their buddies, it is ok, they don't want any more  
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money left over for social services. They think that if you aren't rich,  
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you don't matter. War is better than helping people.  
 
 
 
 
 

Phat Barbie , Wednesday, 18th of August 2010 12:02:11 PM

he wouldn't listen to his father Bush Sr. and Colin Powell..  
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you think he is going to listen to the generals...  
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he doesn't know how to respect the military... he was too much of a p u  
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ssy to fight in Vietnam remember????  
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Phat Barbie , Thursday, 19th of August 2010 06:36:35 AM

In short, the Troops doing the fighting want it.  
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Also, Colin Powell has never said he was against sending troops.  
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''..you give them eyes but they cannot see''  
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Try and keep up to date on the Esteemed Mr. Powell.  
 
Your information is close to four months old.  
 
http://indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070223/LOCAL/702230500/-1/ZONES04  
 
 
And yes, you are excused.  
 
 
 
 
 

Sweetheart , Friday, 20th of August 2010 09:02:36 PM

first, your reported for epithets and second the objective for  
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the ONE THOUSANDTH time is to keep al qaeda from our shores rather than  
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have them continue to attack as when clinton ignored them for eight years.  
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have a nice day.  
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white mischief , Saturday, 21st of August 2010 06:26:09 AM

Bush can send 250,000 more troops, and it won't help. The USA  
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has lost the battle of hearts and minds in the region.  
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I agree with military leaders, a diplomatic solution is the only way to  
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bring peace to Iraq.  
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